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The First in Eternity is God the Father
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Miracles Are Seen In Light
2024-09-18 06:40:37 UTC
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"The first in time means nothing, but the First in eternity is God the
Father, Who is both First and One. Beyond the First there is no other,
for there is no order, no second or third, and nothing but the First."
"You who belong to the First Cause, created by him like unto himself and
part of him, are more than merely guiltless. The state of guiltlessness
is only the condition in which what is not there has been removed from
the disordered mind that thought it was. This state, and only this,
must you attain, with God beside you. For until you do, you will still
think that you are separate from him."
"When you have let all that obscured the truth in your most holy mind be
undone for you, and therefore stand in grace before your Father, he will
give himself to you as he has always done. Giving himself is all he
knows, and so it is all knowledge. For what he knows not cannot be, and
therefore cannot be given. Ask not to be forgiven, for this has already
been accomplished. Ask, rather, to learn how to forgive, and to restore
what always was to your unforgiving mind. Atonement becomes real and
visible to those who use it. On earth this is your only function, and
you must learn that it is all you want to learn."
"You need not understand creation to do what must be done before that
knowledge would be meaningful to you. God breaks no barriers; neither
did he make them. When you release them they are gone. God will not
fail, nor ever has in anything. Decide that God is right and you are
wrong about yourself. He created you out of himself, but still within
him. He knows what you are. Remember that there is no second to him.
There cannot, therefore, be anyone without his holiness, nor anyone
unworthy of his perfect love. Fail not in your function of loving in a
loveless place made out of darkness and deceit, for thus are darkness
and deceit undone. Fail not yourself, but instead offer to God and you
his blameless Son. For this small gift of appreciation for his love,
God will himself exchange your gift for his."
"Before you make any decisions for yourself, remember that you have
decided against your function in Heaven, and then consider carefully
whether you want to make decisions here. Your function here is only to
decide against deciding what you want, in recognition that you do not
know. How, then, can you decide what you should do? Leave all
decisions to the One Who speaks for God, and for your function as he
knows it. So will he teach you to remove the awful burden you have laid
upon yourself by loving not the Son of God, and trying to teach him
guilt instead of love. Give up this frantic and insane attempt that
cheats you of the joy of living with your God and Father, and of waking
gladly to his love and holiness that join together as the truth in you,
making you one with him."
"Unless you are guiltless you cannot know God, Whose Will is that you
know him. Therefore, you *must* be guiltless. Yet if you do not accept
the necessary conditions for knowing him, you have denied him and do not
recognize him, though he is all around you. He cannot be known without
his Son, whose guiltlessness is the condition for knowing him. Accepting
his Son as guilty is denial of the Father so complete, that knowledge is
swept away from recognition in the very mind where God himself has
placed it. If you would but listen, and learn how impossible this is!
Do not endow him with attributes you understand. You made him not, and
anything you understand is not of him."
"Your task is not to make reality. It is here without your making, but
not without you. You who have tried to throw yourself away and valued
God so little, hear me speak for him and for yourself. You cannot
understand how much your Father loves you, for there is no parallel in
your experience of the world to help you understand it. There is
nothing on earth with which it can compare, and nothing you have ever
felt apart from him resembles it ever so faintly. Would you know of One
Who gives forever, and Who knows of nothing except giving?"
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 14, Section 4 (5pdf)
"Teaching for Truth," "Your Function in the Atonement"
https://tinyurl.com/A-Course-In-Miracles-pdf
Socrates
2024-09-18 08:00:51 UTC
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"The first in time means nothing, but the First in eternity is God the
Father, Who is both First and One.  Beyond the First there is no other,
for there is no order, no second or third, and nothing but the First."
God's chosen have been busy:

‘Israel’s’ exploding pagers put Middle East on the brink.

Hezbollah terrorists were among thousands maimed when booby-trapped
handheld pagers exploded in the Middle East on Tuesday.

At least nine people were killed and 2,750 injured, 300 critically when
the pocket devices were detonated across Syria and Lebanon.
badgolferman
2024-09-18 09:50:11 UTC
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Post by Socrates
"The first in time means nothing, but the First in eternity is God the
Father, Who is both First and One.  Beyond the First there is no other,
for there is no order, no second or third, and nothing but the First."
‘Israel’s’ exploding pagers put Middle East on the brink.
Hezbollah terrorists were among thousands maimed when booby-trapped
handheld pagers exploded in the Middle East on Tuesday.
At least nine people were killed and 2,750 injured, 300 critically when
the pocket devices were detonated across Syria and Lebanon.
Brilliant!
Sharx335
2024-09-18 16:23:44 UTC
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Post by Socrates
"The first in time means nothing, but the First in eternity is God the
Father, Who is both First and One.  Beyond the First there is no other,
for there is no order, no second or third, and nothing but the First."
‘Israel’s’ exploding pagers put Middle East on the brink.
Hezbollah terrorists were among thousands maimed when booby-trapped
handheld pagers exploded in the Middle East on Tuesday.
At least nine people were killed and 2,750 injured, 300 critically when
the pocket devices were detonated across Syria and Lebanon.
My heart aches. This will continue until Islamofascism is wiped from
this Earth. The West should realize this and act accordingly, proactively.
Bob
2024-09-18 17:42:09 UTC
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Post by Sharx335
Post by Socrates
"The first in time means nothing, but the First in eternity is God the
Father, Who is both First and One.  Beyond the First there is no other,
for there is no order, no second or third, and nothing but the First."
‘Israel’s’ exploding pagers put Middle East on the brink.
Hezbollah terrorists were among thousands maimed when booby-trapped
handheld pagers exploded in the Middle East on Tuesday.
At least nine people were killed and 2,750 injured, 300 critically when
the pocket devices were detonated across Syria and Lebanon.
My heart aches. This will continue until Islamofascism is wiped from
this Earth. The West should realize this and act accordingly, proactively.
Unfortunately for your aching heart, this earth remains bigger than your
neurosis.
--
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Miracles Are Seen In Light
2024-09-18 17:12:55 UTC
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"The first in time means nothing, but the First in eternity is God the
Father, Who is both First and One. Beyond the First there is no other,
for there is no order, no second or third, and nothing but the First."
"You who belong to the First Cause, created by him like unto himself and
part of him, are more than merely guiltless. The state of guiltlessness
is only the condition in which what is not there has been removed from
the disordered mind that thought it was. This state, and only this,
must you attain, with God beside you. For until you do, you will still
think that you are separate from him."
"When you have let all that obscured the truth in your most holy mind be
undone for you, and therefore stand in grace before your Father, he will
give himself to you as he has always done. Giving himself is all he
knows, and so it is all knowledge. For what he knows not cannot be, and
therefore cannot be given. Ask not to be forgiven, for this has already
been accomplished. Ask, rather, to learn how to forgive, and to restore
what always was to your unforgiving mind. Atonement becomes real and
visible to those who use it. On earth this is your only function, and
you must learn that it is all you want to learn."
"You need not understand creation to do what must be done before that
knowledge would be meaningful to you. God breaks no barriers; neither
did he make them. When you release them they are gone. God will not
fail, nor ever has in anything. Decide that God is right and you are
wrong about yourself. He created you out of himself, but still within
him. He knows what you are. Remember that there is no second to him.
There cannot, therefore, be anyone without his holiness, nor anyone
unworthy of his perfect love. Fail not in your function of loving in a
loveless place made out of darkness and deceit, for thus are darkness
and deceit undone. Fail not yourself, but instead offer to God and you
his blameless Son. For this small gift of appreciation for his love,
God will himself exchange your gift for his."
"Before you make any decisions for yourself, remember that you have
decided against your function in Heaven, and then consider carefully
whether you want to make decisions here. Your function here is only to
decide against deciding what you want, in recognition that you do not
know. How, then, can you decide what you should do? Leave all
decisions to the One Who speaks for God, and for your function as he
knows it. So will he teach you to remove the awful burden you have laid
upon yourself by loving not the Son of God, and trying to teach him
guilt instead of love. Give up this frantic and insane attempt that
cheats you of the joy of living with your God and Father, and of waking
gladly to his love and holiness that join together as the truth in you,
making you one with him."
"Unless you are guiltless you cannot know God, Whose Will is that you
know him. Therefore, you *must* be guiltless. Yet if you do not accept
the necessary conditions for knowing him, you have denied him and do not
recognize him, though he is all around you. He cannot be known without
his Son, whose guiltlessness is the condition for knowing him. Accepting
his Son as guilty is denial of the Father so complete, that knowledge is
swept away from recognition in the very mind where God himself has
placed it. If you would but listen, and learn how impossible this is!
Do not endow him with attributes you understand. You made him not, and
anything you understand is not of him."
"Love is not learned. Its meaning lies within itself. And learning
ends when you have recognized all it is not. That is the interference;
that is what needs to be undone. Love is not learned, because there
never was a time in which you knew it not. Learning is useless in the
Presence of your Creator, Whose acknowledgment of you and yours of him
so far transcend all learning that everything you learned is
meaningless, replaced forever by the knowledge of love and its one meaning."

- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 18, Section 9
"The Passing of the Dream," "The Two Worlds"
"Your task is not to make reality. It is here without your making, but
not without you. You who have tried to throw yourself away and valued
God so little, hear me speak for him and for yourself. You cannot
understand how much your Father loves you, for there is no parallel in
your experience of the world to help you understand it. There is
nothing on earth with which it can compare, and nothing you have ever
felt apart from him resembles it ever so faintly. Would you know of One
Who gives forever, and Who knows of nothing except giving?"
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 14, Section 4 (5pdf)
"Teaching for Truth," "Your Function in the Atonement"
https://tinyurl.com/A-Course-In-Miracles-pdf
banjo Jon
2024-09-18 22:01:30 UTC
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"The first in time means nothing, but the First in eternity is God the
Father, Who is both First and One.  Beyond the First there is no other,
for there is no order, no second or third, and nothing but the First."
"You who belong to the First Cause, created by him like unto himself and
part of him, are more than merely guiltless.  The state of guiltlessness
is only the condition in which what is not there has been removed from
the disordered mind that thought it was.  This state, and only this,
must you attain, with God beside you.  For until you do, you will still
think that you are separate from him."
"When you have let all that obscured the truth in your most holy mind be
undone for you, and therefore stand in grace before your Father, he will
give himself to you as he has always done.  Giving himself is all he
knows, and so it is all knowledge.  For what he knows not cannot be, and
therefore cannot be given.  Ask not to be forgiven, for this has already
been accomplished.  Ask, rather, to learn how to forgive, and to restore
what always was to your unforgiving mind.  Atonement becomes real and
visible to those who use it.  On earth this is your only function, and
you must learn that it is all you want to learn."
"You need not understand creation to do what must be done before that
knowledge would be meaningful to you.  God breaks no barriers; neither
did he make them.  When you release them they are gone.  God will not
fail, nor ever has in anything.  Decide that God is right and you are
wrong about yourself.  He created you out of himself, but still within
him.  He knows what you are.  Remember that there is no second to him.
There cannot, therefore, be anyone without his holiness, nor anyone
unworthy of his perfect love.  Fail not in your function of loving in a
loveless place made out of darkness and deceit, for thus are darkness
and deceit undone.  Fail not yourself, but instead offer to God and you
his blameless Son.  For this small gift of appreciation for his love,
God will himself exchange your gift for his."
"Before you make any decisions for yourself, remember that you have
decided against your function in Heaven, and then consider carefully
whether you want to make decisions here.  Your function here is only to
decide against deciding what you want, in recognition that you do not
know.  How, then, can you decide what you should do?  Leave all
decisions to the One Who speaks for God, and for your function as he
knows it.  So will he teach you to remove the awful burden you have laid
upon yourself by loving not the Son of God, and trying to teach him
guilt instead of love.  Give up this frantic and insane attempt that
cheats you of the joy of living with your God and Father, and of waking
gladly to his love and holiness that join together as the truth in you,
making you one with him."
"Unless you are guiltless you cannot know God, Whose Will is that you
know him.  Therefore, you *must* be guiltless.  Yet if you do not accept
the necessary conditions for knowing him, you have denied him and do not
recognize him, though he is all around you.  He cannot be known without
his Son, whose guiltlessness is the condition for knowing him. Accepting
his Son as guilty is denial of the Father so complete, that knowledge is
swept away from recognition in the very mind where God himself has
placed it.  If you would but listen, and learn how impossible this is!
Do not endow him with attributes you understand.  You made him not, and
anything you understand is not of him."
"Love is not learned.  Its meaning lies within itself.  And learning
ends when you have recognized all it is not.  That is the interference;
that is what needs to be undone.  Love is not learned, because there
never was a time in which you knew it not.  Learning is useless in the
Presence of your Creator, Whose acknowledgment of you and yours of him
so far transcend all learning that everything you learned is
meaningless, replaced forever by the knowledge of love and its one meaning."
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 18, Section 9
"The Passing of the Dream," "The Two Worlds"
"Your task is not to make reality.  It is here without your making, but
not without you. You who have tried to throw yourself away and valued
God so little, hear me speak for him and for yourself.  You cannot
understand how much your Father loves you, for there is no parallel in
your experience of the world to help you understand it.  There is
nothing on earth with which it can compare, and nothing you have ever
felt apart from him resembles it ever so faintly.  Would you know of One
Who gives forever, and Who knows of nothing except giving?"
- A Course in Miracles, Chapter 14, Section 4 (5pdf)
"Teaching for Truth," "Your Function in the Atonement"
https://tinyurl.com/A-Course-In-Miracles-pdf
As I don't understand what you're trying to say, I doubt if you do, either.

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