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badgolferman
2025-02-02 23:01:25 UTC
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President Trump has insisted the national security of the USA is under
threat and in order to mitigate that we need to once again control the
Panama Canal and Greenland. As a secondary priority, bringing Canada into
the USA as the 51st state has been mentioned as well.

- Canada
I’m not sure messing around with Canada is a good idea. They have been a
good ally in most respects and do control oil pipelines which serve the
USA. I also don’t like the idea of them being a state because it would
certainly add two more Democratic senators to Congress.

- Panama Canal
I highly doubt Trump will forcibly take the canal. That would be an
international public relations disaster and surely isolate the USA even
more than Trump wants. Most likely this a bluster to gain favorable
conditions from the canal authorities and to push back the Chinese who have
gained a significant foothold there.

- Greenland
Now this one is interesting. Taking Greenland by force would be fairly
easy. Imagine the pressure that would place upon NATO to respond, but then
who is NATO really? Without the US they are powerless. Owning Greenland is
all about the shipping lanes, rare earth minerals, and national defense.
The airspace over Greenland is highly coveted and the shortest distance
from Russia. Building air defense bases in Greenland seems quite critical
at this time. Since China owns something like 80% of rare earth minerals,
it seems quite important to also control the one place in the world that
has a significant amount available when some day we can actually get to it.


Honestly I think Trump is just flexing some muscle to remind these people
he is not a pushover like Biden and will seriously protect US interests.
They will have to offer some concessions to continue being on his good side
because they need the US protection far more than the US needs their
permission. It’s time to get our money’s worth.
Fred Exley
2025-02-03 00:40:42 UTC
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Post by badgolferman
President Trump has insisted the national security of the USA is under
threat and in order to mitigate that we need to once again control the
Panama Canal and Greenland. As a secondary priority, bringing Canada into
the USA as the 51st state has been mentioned as well.
- Canada
I’m not sure messing around with Canada is a good idea. They have been a
good ally in most respects and do control oil pipelines which serve the
USA. I also don’t like the idea of them being a state because it would
certainly add two more Democratic senators to Congress.
- Panama Canal
I highly doubt Trump will forcibly take the canal. That would be an
international public relations disaster and surely isolate the USA even
more than Trump wants. Most likely this a bluster to gain favorable
conditions from the canal authorities and to push back the Chinese who have
gained a significant foothold there.
- Greenland
Now this one is interesting. Taking Greenland by force would be fairly
easy. Imagine the pressure that would place upon NATO to respond, but then
who is NATO really? Without the US they are powerless. Owning Greenland is
all about the shipping lanes, rare earth minerals, and national defense.
The airspace over Greenland is highly coveted and the shortest distance
from Russia. Building air defense bases in Greenland seems quite critical
at this time. Since China owns something like 80% of rare earth minerals,
it seems quite important to also control the one place in the world that
has a significant amount available when some day we can actually get to it.
Honestly I think Trump is just flexing some muscle to remind these people
he is not a pushover like Biden and will seriously protect US interests.
They will have to offer some concessions to continue being on his good side
because they need the US protection far more than the US needs their
permission. It’s time to get our money’s worth.
Certainly making Canada the 51st state was made in jest. That would be
one mother-of-all states, as Canada is about 7 times bigger than Alaska.
The Canucks would not be too happy having the same senatorial
representation as Rhode Island.

But annexing Canada the way Germany annexed Austria under Hitler is a
remote possibility. Trump does seem to be following Hitler's playbook
in many ways:

Targeting a scapegoat to unite against and purge from society: with
Hitler it was the Jews, with Trump it's the illegal aliens.

A vehement posture protesting perceived provocations by other nations
against ours, justifying threats (so far) of invasion (Poland, Panama).

Chumminess with a major car manufacturer (Mercedes-Benz, Tesla).

Megalomaniacal personality disorder.




Coincidence? I think not.
badgolferman
2025-02-03 11:36:22 UTC
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Post by badgolferman
President Trump has insisted the national security of the USA is under
threat and in order to mitigate that we need to once again control the
Panama Canal and Greenland. As a secondary priority, bringing Canada into
the USA as the 51st state has been mentioned as well.
- Canada
I’m not sure messing around with Canada is a good idea. They have been a
good ally in most respects and do control oil pipelines which serve the
USA. I also don’t like the idea of them being a state because it would
certainly add two more Democratic senators to Congress.
- Panama Canal
I highly doubt Trump will forcibly take the canal. That would be an
international public relations disaster and surely isolate the USA even
more than Trump wants. Most likely this a bluster to gain favorable
conditions from the canal authorities and to push back the Chinese who have
gained a significant foothold there.
- Greenland
Now this one is interesting. Taking Greenland by force would be fairly
easy. Imagine the pressure that would place upon NATO to respond, but then
who is NATO really? Without the US they are powerless. Owning Greenland is
all about the shipping lanes, rare earth minerals, and national defense.
The airspace over Greenland is highly coveted and the shortest distance
from Russia. Building air defense bases in Greenland seems quite critical
at this time. Since China owns something like 80% of rare earth minerals,
it seems quite important to also control the one place in the world that
has a significant amount available when some day we can actually get to it.
Honestly I think Trump is just flexing some muscle to remind these people
he is not a pushover like Biden and will seriously protect US interests.
They will have to offer some concessions to continue being on his good side
because they need the US protection far more than the US needs their
permission. It’s time to get our money’s worth.
Certainly making Canada the 51st state was made in jest. That would be
one mother-of-all states, as Canada is about 7 times bigger than Alaska.
The Canucks would not be too happy having the same senatorial
representation as Rhode Island.
But annexing Canada the way Germany annexed Austria under Hitler is a
remote possibility. Trump does seem to be following Hitler's playbook
Targeting a scapegoat to unite against and purge from society: with
Hitler it was the Jews, with Trump it's the illegal aliens.
A vehement posture protesting perceived provocations by other nations
against ours, justifying threats (so far) of invasion (Poland, Panama).
Chumminess with a major car manufacturer (Mercedes-Benz, Tesla).
Megalomaniacal personality disorder.
Coincidence? I think not.
I guess “invasion” is the central theme. With Biden and Harris we were
being invaded by other countries. Now under Trump we’re threatening to
invade other countries. But at least Trump offered to buy Greenland and
Panama Canal.
badgolferman
2025-02-03 16:27:36 UTC
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Post by Fred Exley
Post by badgolferman
President Trump has insisted the national security of the USA is
under threat and in order to mitigate that we need to once again
control the Panama Canal and Greenland. As a secondary priority,
bringing Canada into the USA as the 51st state has been
mentioned as well.
- Canada
I’m not sure messing around with Canada is a good idea. They
have been a good ally in most respects and do control oil
pipelines which serve the USA. I also don’t like the idea of
them being a state because it would certainly add two more
Democratic senators to Congress.
- Panama Canal
I highly doubt Trump will forcibly take the canal. That would be
an international public relations disaster and surely isolate
the USA even more than Trump wants. Most likely this a bluster
to gain favorable conditions from the canal authorities and to
push back the Chinese who have gained a significant foothold
there.
- Greenland
Now this one is interesting. Taking Greenland by force would be
fairly easy. Imagine the pressure that would place upon NATO to
respond, but then who is NATO really? Without the US they are
powerless. Owning Greenland is all about the shipping lanes,
rare earth minerals, and national defense. The airspace over
Greenland is highly coveted and the shortest distance from
Russia. Building air defense bases in Greenland seems quite
critical at this time. Since China owns something like 80% of
rare earth minerals, it seems quite important to also control
the one place in the world that has a significant amount
available when some day we can actually get to it.
Honestly I think Trump is just flexing some muscle to remind
these people he is not a pushover like Biden and will seriously
protect US interests. They will have to offer some concessions
to continue being on his good side because they need the US
protection far more than the US needs their permission. It’s
time to get our money’s worth.
Certainly making Canada the 51st state was made in jest. That
would be one mother-of-all states, as Canada is about 7 times
bigger than Alaska. The Canucks would not be too happy having
the same senatorial representation as Rhode Island.
But annexing Canada the way Germany annexed Austria under Hitler
is a remote possibility. Trump does seem to be following Hitler's
with Hitler it was the Jews, with Trump it's the illegal aliens.
A vehement posture protesting perceived provocations by other
nations against ours, justifying threats (so far) of invasion
(Poland, Panama).
Chumminess with a major car manufacturer (Mercedes-Benz, Tesla).
Megalomaniacal personality disorder.
Coincidence? I think not.
I guess “invasion” is the central theme. With Biden and Harris we were
being invaded by other countries. Now under Trump we’re threatening to
invade other countries. But at least Trump offered to buy Greenland
and Panama Canal.
Looks like Trump's lunacy is working!

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Denmark is ready to allow the US to boost its presence in Greenland,
Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said as she seeks to curb an
escalating diplomatic crisis with the Trump administration over the
world’s largest island.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/denmark-is-open-to-us-expansion-in-greenland-premier-says/ar-AA1ykbJT
badgolferman
2025-02-04 01:31:40 UTC
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Post by badgolferman
Post by Fred Exley
Post by badgolferman
President Trump has insisted the national security of the USA is
under threat and in order to mitigate that we need to once again
control the Panama Canal and Greenland. As a secondary priority,
bringing Canada into the USA as the 51st state has been
mentioned as well.
- Canada
I’m not sure messing around with Canada is a good idea. They
have been a good ally in most respects and do control oil
pipelines which serve the USA. I also don’t like the idea of
them being a state because it would certainly add two more
Democratic senators to Congress.
- Panama Canal
I highly doubt Trump will forcibly take the canal. That would be
an international public relations disaster and surely isolate
the USA even more than Trump wants. Most likely this a bluster
to gain favorable conditions from the canal authorities and to
push back the Chinese who have gained a significant foothold
there.
- Greenland
Now this one is interesting. Taking Greenland by force would be
fairly easy. Imagine the pressure that would place upon NATO to
respond, but then who is NATO really? Without the US they are
powerless. Owning Greenland is all about the shipping lanes,
rare earth minerals, and national defense. The airspace over
Greenland is highly coveted and the shortest distance from
Russia. Building air defense bases in Greenland seems quite
critical at this time. Since China owns something like 80% of
rare earth minerals, it seems quite important to also control
the one place in the world that has a significant amount
available when some day we can actually get to it.
Honestly I think Trump is just flexing some muscle to remind
these people he is not a pushover like Biden and will seriously
protect US interests. They will have to offer some concessions
to continue being on his good side because they need the US
protection far more than the US needs their permission. It’s
time to get our money’s worth.
Certainly making Canada the 51st state was made in jest. That
would be one mother-of-all states, as Canada is about 7 times
bigger than Alaska. The Canucks would not be too happy having
the same senatorial representation as Rhode Island.
But annexing Canada the way Germany annexed Austria under Hitler
is a remote possibility. Trump does seem to be following Hitler's
with Hitler it was the Jews, with Trump it's the illegal aliens.
A vehement posture protesting perceived provocations by other
nations against ours, justifying threats (so far) of invasion
(Poland, Panama).
Chumminess with a major car manufacturer (Mercedes-Benz, Tesla).
Megalomaniacal personality disorder.
Coincidence? I think not.
I guess “invasion” is the central theme. With Biden and Harris we were
being invaded by other countries. Now under Trump we’re threatening to
invade other countries. But at least Trump offered to buy Greenland
and Panama Canal.
Looks like Trump's lunacy is working!
------------
Denmark is ready to allow the US to boost its presence in Greenland,
Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said as she seeks to curb an
escalating diplomatic crisis with the Trump administration over the
world’s largest island.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/denmark-is-open-to-us-expansion-in-greenland-premier-says/ar-AA1ykbJT
Trudeau and Panama have backed down as well. Looks like Trump really knows
what he’s doing! When will he receive credit from the hand wringing
democrats?
Charlie M. 1958
2025-02-03 14:50:28 UTC
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Post by badgolferman
President Trump has insisted the national security of the USA is under
threat and in order to mitigate that we need to once again control the
Panama Canal and Greenland. As a secondary priority, bringing Canada into
the USA as the 51st state has been mentioned as well.
- Canada
I’m not sure messing around with Canada is a good idea. They have been a
good ally in most respects and do control oil pipelines which serve the
USA. I also don’t like the idea of them being a state because it would
certainly add two more Democratic senators to Congress.
- Panama Canal
I highly doubt Trump will forcibly take the canal. That would be an
international public relations disaster and surely isolate the USA even
more than Trump wants. Most likely this a bluster to gain favorable
conditions from the canal authorities and to push back the Chinese who have
gained a significant foothold there.
- Greenland
Now this one is interesting. Taking Greenland by force would be fairly
easy. Imagine the pressure that would place upon NATO to respond, but then
who is NATO really? Without the US they are powerless. Owning Greenland is
all about the shipping lanes, rare earth minerals, and national defense.
The airspace over Greenland is highly coveted and the shortest distance
from Russia. Building air defense bases in Greenland seems quite critical
at this time. Since China owns something like 80% of rare earth minerals,
it seems quite important to also control the one place in the world that
has a significant amount available when some day we can actually get to it.
Honestly I think Trump is just flexing some muscle to remind these people
he is not a pushover like Biden and will seriously protect US interests.
They will have to offer some concessions to continue being on his good side
because they need the US protection far more than the US needs their
permission. It’s time to get our money’s worth.
Certainly making Canada the 51st state was made in jest. That would be
one mother-of-all states, as Canada is about 7 times bigger than Alaska.
The Canucks would not be too happy having the same senatorial
representation as Rhode Island.
But annexing Canada the way Germany annexed Austria under Hitler is a
remote possibility. Trump does seem to be following Hitler's playbook
Targeting a scapegoat to unite against and purge from society: with
Hitler it was the Jews, with Trump it's the illegal aliens.
A vehement posture protesting perceived provocations by other nations
against ours, justifying threats (so far) of invasion (Poland, Panama).
Chumminess with a major car manufacturer (Mercedes-Benz, Tesla).
Megalomaniacal personality disorder.
Coincidence? I think not.
There is, indeed, a scary degree of similarity.
Skeezix LaRocca
2025-02-03 18:27:20 UTC
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Post by badgolferman
President Trump has insisted the national security of the USA is under
threat and in order to mitigate that we need to once again control the
Panama Canal and Greenland. As a secondary priority, bringing Canada into
the USA as the 51st state has been mentioned as well.
- Canada
I’m not sure messing around with Canada is a good idea. They have been a
good ally in most respects and do control oil pipelines which serve the
USA. I also don’t like the idea of them being a state because it would
certainly add two more Democratic senators to Congress.
- Panama Canal
I highly doubt Trump will forcibly take the canal. That would be an
international public relations disaster and surely isolate the USA even
more than Trump wants. Most likely this a bluster to gain favorable
conditions from the canal authorities and to push back the Chinese who have
gained a significant foothold there.
- Greenland
Now this one is interesting. Taking Greenland by force would be fairly
easy. Imagine the pressure that would place upon NATO to respond, but then
who is NATO really? Without the US they are powerless. Owning Greenland is
all about the shipping lanes, rare earth minerals, and national defense.
The airspace over Greenland is highly coveted and the shortest distance
from Russia. Building air defense bases in Greenland seems quite critical
at this time. Since China owns something like 80% of rare earth minerals,
it seems quite important to also control the one place in the world that
has a significant amount available when some day we can actually get to it.
Honestly I think Trump is just flexing some muscle to remind these people
he is not a pushover like Biden and will seriously protect US interests.
They will have to offer some concessions to continue being on his good side
because they need the US protection far more than the US needs their
permission. It’s time to get our money’s worth.
He is just showing what an asshole he is.
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banjo Jon
2025-02-05 05:20:06 UTC
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Post by badgolferman
Honestly I think Trump is just flexing some muscle to remind these people
he is not a pushover like Biden and will seriously protect US interests.
They will have to offer some concessions to continue being on his good side
because they need the US protection far more than the US needs their
permission. It’s time to get our money’s worth.
If you are born with a dick you're a man and if you're born with a
vagina you're a woman. Anyone who argues otherwise needs to be
corrected. The mind can play funny tricks on the best of us, but in the
real world there's no room for delusion.
Sharx335
2025-02-05 06:06:51 UTC
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Post by banjo Jon
Post by badgolferman
Honestly I think Trump is just flexing some muscle to remind these people
he is not a pushover like Biden and will seriously protect US interests.
They will have to offer some concessions to continue being on his good side
because they need the US protection far more than the US needs their
permission. It’s time to get our money’s worth.
If you are born with a dick you're a man and if you're born with a
vagina you're a woman.  Anyone who argues otherwise needs to be
corrected.  The mind can play funny tricks on the best of us, but in the
real world there's no room for delusion.
Yet another irony meter bites the dust.
Charlie M. 1958
2025-02-05 17:58:09 UTC
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Post by banjo Jon
Post by badgolferman
Honestly I think Trump is just flexing some muscle to remind these people
he is not a pushover like Biden and will seriously protect US interests.
They will have to offer some concessions to continue being on his good side
because they need the US protection far more than the US needs their
permission. It’s time to get our money’s worth.
If you are born with a dick you're a man and if you're born with a
vagina you're a woman.  Anyone who argues otherwise needs to be
corrected.  The mind can play funny tricks on the best of us, but in
the real world there's no room for delusion.
Yet another irony meter bites the dust.
:-)

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