Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire.

[Socrates]

President Donald Trump made numerous false and misleading claims in his
Tuesday speech to a joint session of Congress. The falsehoods spanned a
variety of topics, including the economy, climate, immigration and more.

In his speech, (just under one hour and 40 minutes), Trump also made a
number of false claims about his predecessor, Joe Biden.

Trump claimed that the Department of Government Efficiency, the
initiative led by Elon Musk, has “found hundreds of billions of dollars”
in fraud.

As of the day of Trump’s address to Congress, DOGE claimed on it's
website that its work has saved an estimated $105 billion for taxpayers
but hasn’t provided evidence to corroborate that claim.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/04/politics/fact-check-trump-address-congress/index.html

[Sharx335]

Post by Socrates
President Donald Trump made numerous false and misleading claims in his
Tuesday speech to a joint session of Congress. The falsehoods spanned a
variety of topics, including the economy, climate, immigration and more.
In his speech, (just under one hour and 40 minutes), Trump also made a
number of false claims about his predecessor, Joe Biden.
Trump claimed that the Department of Government Efficiency, the
initiative led by Elon Musk, has “found hundreds of billions of dollars”
in fraud.
As of the day of Trump’s address to Congress, DOGE claimed on it's
website that its work has saved an estimated $105 billion for taxpayers
but hasn’t provided evidence to corroborate that claim.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/04/politics/fact-check-trump-address-
congress/index.html

From CNN...yeah, right...what a credible source. Of course, as long as
it agrees with YOUR narrative.

[Socrates]

Post by Sharx335

Post by Socrates
President Donald Trump made numerous false and misleading claims in
his Tuesday speech to a joint session of Congress. The falsehoods
spanned a variety of topics, including the economy, climate,
immigration and more.
In his speech, (just under one hour and 40 minutes), Trump also made a
number of false claims about his predecessor, Joe Biden.
Trump claimed that the Department of Government Efficiency, the
initiative led by Elon Musk, has “found hundreds of billions of
dollars” in fraud.
As of the day of Trump’s address to Congress, DOGE claimed on it's
website that its work has saved an estimated $105 billion for
taxpayers but hasn’t provided evidence to corroborate that claim.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/04/politics/fact-check-trump-address-
congress/index.html

From CNN...yeah, right...what a credible source. Of course, as long as
it agrees with YOUR narrative.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/10/30/which-news-organization-is-the-most-trusted-the-answer-is-complicated/

[badgolferman]

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https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/04/politics/fact-check-trump-address-
congress/index.html

From CNN...yeah, right...what a credible source. Of course, as long
as it agrees with YOUR narrative.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/10/30/which-news-organization-is-the-most-trusted-the-answer-is-complicated/

Online polls are often skewed by the audiences which they target.
Another way to consider which network most people trust is by their
viewership numbers. Surely you know what that looks like.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/10/31/americans-top-sources-of-political-news-ahead-of-the-2024-election/

[Socrates]

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https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/04/politics/fact-check-trump-address-
congress/index.html

From CNN...yeah, right...what a credible source. Of course, as long
as it agrees with YOUR narrative.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/10/30/which-news-organization-is-the-most-trusted-the-answer-is-complicated/

Online polls are often skewed by the audiences which they target.
Another way to consider which network most people trust is by their
viewership numbers. Surely you know what that looks like.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/10/31/americans-top-sources-of-political-news-ahead-of-the-2024-election/

Good source IMO. Also from Pew Research center:

5 facts about Fox News:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/04/08/five-facts-about-fox-news/

Fox News, the influential cable network launched by Rupert Murdoch in
1996, holds a unique place in the American media landscape, particularly
for those on the ideological right.

While Democrats in the United States turn to and place their trust in a
variety of media outlets for political news, no other source comes close
to matching the appeal of Fox News for Republicans.

[Ted H]

On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 11:25:58 -0800,

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Post by badgolferman

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Post by Sharx335

Post by Socrates
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/04/politics/fact-check-trump-address-
congress/index.html

From CNN...yeah, right...what a credible source. Of course, as long
as it agrees with YOUR narrative.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/10/30/which-news-organization-is-the-most-trusted-the-answer-is-complicated/

Online polls are often skewed by the audiences which they target.
Another way to consider which network most people trust is by their
viewership numbers. Surely you know what that looks like.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/10/31/americans-top-sources-of-political-news-ahead-of-the-2024-election/

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/04/08/five-facts-about-fox-news/
Fox News, the influential cable network launched by Rupert
Murdoch in 1996, holds a unique place in the American media
landscape, particularly for those on the ideological right.
While Democrats in the United States turn to and place their
trust in a variety of media outlets for political news, no
other source comes close to matching the appeal of Fox News for
Republicans.

Pretty much what I understood to be the case, and makes it likely
that viewership numbers would be skewed when comparing the two
parties.

[Sharx335]

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https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/04/politics/fact-check-trump-address-
congress/index.html

From CNN...yeah, right...what a credible source. Of course, as long
as  it agrees with YOUR narrative.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/10/30/which-news-
organization-is-the-most-trusted-the-answer-is-complicated/

Online polls are often skewed by the audiences which they target.
Another way to consider which network most people trust is by their
viewership numbers.  Surely you know what that looks like.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/10/31/americans-top-
sources-of-political-news-ahead-of-the-2024-election/

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/04/08/five-facts-about-fox-
news/
Fox News, the influential cable network launched by Rupert Murdoch in
1996, holds a unique place in the American media landscape, particularly
for those on the ideological right.
While Democrats in the United States turn to and place their trust in a
variety of media outlets for political news, no other source comes close
to matching the appeal of Fox News for Republicans.

I certainly am not glued to Faux Nooze--it's just another one of the
media that skews to its audience.

[Sharx335]

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https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/04/politics/fact-check-trump-address-
congress/index.html

From CNN...yeah, right...what a credible source. Of course, as long
as it agrees with YOUR narrative.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/10/30/which-news-organization-is-the-most-trusted-the-answer-is-complicated/

Online polls are often skewed by the audiences which they target.
Another way to consider which network most people trust is by their
viewership numbers. Surely you know what that looks like.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/10/31/americans-top-sources-of-political-news-ahead-of-the-2024-election/

Must I repeat myself? Evidently, yes. MOST people view/listen to those
news sources that reflect THEIR narrative. Human nature, I'm sorry to
say. I doubt that our Mr. Thomas spends much time glued to conservative
news sources.

[Socrates]

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Post by Sharx335

Post by Socrates
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/04/politics/fact-check-trump-address-
congress/index.html

From CNN...yeah, right...what a credible source. Of course, as long
as  it agrees with YOUR narrative.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/10/30/which-news-organization-is-the-most-trusted-the-answer-is-complicated/

Online polls are often skewed by the audiences which they target.
Another way to consider which network most people trust is by their
viewership numbers.  Surely you know what that looks like.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/10/31/americans-top-sources-of-political-news-ahead-of-the-2024-election/

Must I repeat myself? Evidently, yes.  MOST people view/listen to those
news sources that reflect THEIR narrative. Human nature, I'm sorry to
say. I doubt that our Mr. Thomas spends much time glued to conservative
news sources.

LOL, keeping it simple, (you wouldn't find me in church either.) :)

[Sharx335]

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Post by Socrates
President Donald Trump made numerous false and misleading claims in
his Tuesday speech to a joint session of Congress. The falsehoods
spanned a variety of topics, including the economy, climate,
immigration and more.
In his speech, (just under one hour and 40 minutes), Trump also made
a number of false claims about his predecessor, Joe Biden.
Trump claimed that the Department of Government Efficiency, the
initiative led by Elon Musk, has “found hundreds of billions of
dollars” in fraud.
As of the day of Trump’s address to Congress, DOGE claimed on it's
website that its work has saved an estimated $105 billion for
taxpayers but hasn’t provided evidence to corroborate that claim.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/04/politics/fact-check-trump-address-
congress/index.html

 From CNN...yeah, right...what a credible source. Of course, as long
as it agrees with YOUR narrative.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/10/30/which-news-
organization-is-the-most-trusted-the-answer-is-complicated/

Interesting article BUT over TEN YEARS OLD. Times have changed. For
example, BBC trust factor has plummeted. Ditto for Reuters and,
especially, Associated Press which has become a mouthpiece for the Hamas
terrorist barbarians. And, according to that old article, almost HALF of
those polled have not heard of NPR. WTF, I'm in Canada and I am aware of
NPR.