Discussion:
The Synanon Game
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dougwa
2005-04-16 02:56:52 UTC
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The Tarzana Family was a Synanon clone program. It was supported by
taxpayer money. A Synanon Clone program is one modeled after the
infamous Synanon program in Santa Monica.. Many people know a little
about the Synanon program and certainly a large number of people went
through it.

When I was in The TarzanaFamily (1972) synanon clone programs were
still popular , but seem to be more replaced by 12 step programs these
days. Tarzana itself still exists and now hosts 12 step programs at
their facility .How their current program is run I do not know. Tarzana
was run by former drug addicts who were graduates from the Camarillo
Family program. Therapies were varied but it was basically
confrontational group therapy. The Synanon Game which was developed at
Synanon was used there and I believe it is still used as therapy in
some drug treatment programs.

Briefly, the Synanon game is a combination group confrontation and
group therapy. One person is placed on the "hot seat" or probe and
verbally attacked by other people in the game. Much truth is said but
since we are talking about corrupted drug addicts it is mostly or
entirely without love (at least in my experience). Much non-truth is
also said. There were certain theraupuetic rules regarding the game. No
threats of violence were tolerated. What was said in the game was
supposed to stay in the game (although sometimes it did not).No
theruapuetic contracts were allowed which meant you could not have
secret verbal contracts outside the game to not confront someone about
their behaviour and secrets inside the game .We were taught techniques
like engrossing a person problems (making them seem bigger than they
actually were). Except for a staff member everyone playing the game was
a drug addict and a drug addict fairly new in recovery at that. Of
course if any of them had really had insight on how to overcome a drug
problem they would not have been in Tarzana in the first place (with
the possible exception of a senior paid staff member). So in a sense it
was a case of the inmates running the asylum. One current website says
"playing the Game can accomplish a unification and healing of the
personality, an appreciation and acceptance of new and more
constructive forms of behavior -- or so they say -". At any rate the
purpose of the game was supposed to be therapeutic and in some
mysterious way not understood by me to help us solve our drug problems.
Of course, Synanon had become wildly popular and endorsed as effective
in some mental health circles and thus its techniques had spread and
become popular, and that's why they existed at Tarzana. Despite
Synanons popularity and noteriety I dont believe any studies were ever
done on its efficacy. I have known a handful of people who were at
Synanon and they were all pretty screwed up, some still on drugs, and
none who really understood addiction.



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ByTor
2005-04-16 12:20:57 UTC
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Post by dougwa
The Tarzana Family was a Synanon clone program. It was supported by
taxpayer money. A Synanon Clone program is one modeled after the
infamous Synanon program in Santa Monica.. Many people know a little
about the Synanon program and certainly a large number of people went
through it.
When I was in The TarzanaFamily (1972) synanon clone programs were
still popular , but seem to be more replaced by 12 step programs these
days. Tarzana itself still exists and now hosts 12 step programs at
their facility .How their current program is run I do not know. Tarzana
was run by former drug addicts who were graduates from the Camarillo
Family program. Therapies were varied but it was basically
confrontational group therapy. The Synanon Game which was developed at
Synanon was used there and I believe it is still used as therapy in
some drug treatment programs.
Briefly, the Synanon game is a combination group confrontation and
group therapy. One person is placed on the "hot seat" or probe and
verbally attacked by other people in the game. Much truth is said but
since we are talking about corrupted drug addicts it is mostly or
entirely without love (at least in my experience). Much non-truth is
also said. There were certain theraupuetic rules regarding the game. No
threats of violence were tolerated. What was said in the game was
supposed to stay in the game (although sometimes it did not).No
theruapuetic contracts were allowed which meant you could not have
secret verbal contracts outside the game to not confront someone about
their behaviour and secrets inside the game .We were taught techniques
like engrossing a person problems (making them seem bigger than they
actually were). Except for a staff member everyone playing the game was
a drug addict and a drug addict fairly new in recovery at that. Of
course if any of them had really had insight on how to overcome a drug
problem they would not have been in Tarzana in the first place (with
the possible exception of a senior paid staff member). So in a sense it
was a case of the inmates running the asylum. One current website says
"playing the Game can accomplish a unification and healing of the
personality, an appreciation and acceptance of new and more
constructive forms of behavior -- or so they say -". At any rate the
purpose of the game was supposed to be therapeutic and in some
mysterious way not understood by me to help us solve our drug problems.
Of course, Synanon had become wildly popular and endorsed as effective
in some mental health circles and thus its techniques had spread and
become popular, and that's why they existed at Tarzana. Despite
Synanons popularity and noteriety I dont believe any studies were ever
done on its efficacy. I have known a handful of people who were at
Synanon and they were all pretty screwed up, some still on drugs, and
none who really understood addiction.
Again, what's your point? Issue?
dougwa
2005-04-16 17:27:27 UTC
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The point is that the throughout the '50's, 60's, and 70's the
"experts" in charge of the "treatment" of drug addicts didnt have the
foggiest idea of what to do about addiction. It was true then and its
true now. Its just easier to see with a lttle hindsight.


The people back then swore up and down their program worked.


Some of these techiniques still being used. The Straight program made
liberal use of
Synanon methods I believe.


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Jimbo
2005-04-16 19:14:21 UTC
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"dougwa" wrote
Some of these techiniques still being used. The Straight program made
liberal use of Synanon methods I believe.

We have a drug rehab program in Quebec called Portage. They take hard core
addicts from jail and put them through the program which consists of Synanon
methods. The program is one year and I've employed people who went through
it. They are torn down and rebuilt as human beings with morals and values.

The big problem with addicts is crime. That is the cycle that the program
breaks. The people who complete the course do not go to 12 Step programs.

Portage also runs a program for youth and another for addicts with mental
illness.
Jim
Ray Pearson
2005-04-16 14:19:41 UTC
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"dougwa" <***@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:***@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
The Tarzana Family was a Synanon clone program. It was supported by
taxpayer money.

who gives a fuck. you continue to be a waste of skin and oxygen. remember
the theme to MASH
Tara
2005-04-16 14:59:28 UTC
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Post by dougwa
The Tarzana Family was a Synanon clone program. It was supported by
taxpayer money.
who gives a fuck. you continue to be a waste of skin and oxygen. remember
the theme to MASH
And the prize for first *actual* personal attack of the day goes to.....

Tara
F.H.
2005-04-16 16:41:40 UTC
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Post by Tara
Post by dougwa
The Tarzana Family was a Synanon clone program. It was supported by
taxpayer money.
who gives a fuck. you continue to be a waste of skin and oxygen. remember
the theme to MASH
And the prize for first *actual* personal attack of the day goes to.....
Tara
Just think Tara, if the Republicons get their way we will someday have
the Committee on Wasted Skin and Oxygen (aka The Committee Who Decides
Who Lives). They likely will be located somewhere near the American
Enterprise Institute. Sadly (as so often happens in these cases) the
ones who clamored for a cleaner, more ethnically clean and intelligent
society,..... are among the first to be found........ unsuitable.

Alas, <sigh> how else could it be?
SHARX.
2005-04-16 23:30:08 UTC
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F.H. wrote:
|| Tara wrote:
||| Ray Pearson wrote:
|||
|||| "dougwa" <***@earthlink.net> wrote in message
|||| news:***@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
|||| The Tarzana Family was a Synanon clone program. It was supported by
|||| taxpayer money.
||||
|||| who gives a fuck. you continue to be a waste of skin and oxygen.
|||| remember the theme to MASH
|||
|||
||| And the prize for first *actual* personal attack of the day goes
||| to.....
|||
||| Tara
||
|| Just think Tara, if the Republicons get their way we will someday
|| have the Committee on Wasted Skin and Oxygen (aka The Committee Who
|| Decides Who Lives). They likely will be located somewhere near the
|| American Enterprise Institute. Sadly (as so often happens in these
|| cases) the ones who clamored for a cleaner, more ethnically clean
|| and intelligent society,..... are among the first to be
|| found........ unsuitable.
||
|| Alas, <sigh> how else could it be?

A number of the brain-numb LIEbrawl DEMONrats ARE a waste of skin..and
oxygen. Soylent Green rocks.
F.H.
2005-04-17 00:19:21 UTC
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Post by SHARX.
|||
|||| The Tarzana Family was a Synanon clone program. It was supported by
|||| taxpayer money.
||||
|||| who gives a fuck. you continue to be a waste of skin and oxygen.
|||| remember the theme to MASH
|||
|||
||| And the prize for first *actual* personal attack of the day goes
||| to.....
|||
||| Tara
||
|| Just think Tara, if the Republicons get their way we will someday
|| have the Committee on Wasted Skin and Oxygen (aka The Committee Who
|| Decides Who Lives). They likely will be located somewhere near the
|| American Enterprise Institute. Sadly (as so often happens in these
|| cases) the ones who clamored for a cleaner, more ethnically clean
|| and intelligent society,..... are among the first to be
|| found........ unsuitable.
||
|| Alas, <sigh> how else could it be?
A number of the brain-numb LIEbrawl DEMONrats ARE a waste of skin..and
oxygen. Soylent Green rocks.
Having another fantasy about Jim?
stuart
2005-04-16 18:37:19 UTC
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Post by Tara
Post by dougwa
The Tarzana Family was a Synanon clone program. It was supported by
taxpayer money.
who gives a fuck. you continue to be a waste of skin and oxygen. remember
the theme to MASH
And the prize for first *actual* personal attack of the day goes to.....
Tara
The real test is how we respond to personal attacks, isn't it?
dougwa
2005-04-16 17:29:35 UTC
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Ray,

Read my posts. I ve been insulted , abused, and attacked by experts who
were paid to do it I didnt know how to deal with them then, I do know.

Your just a lightweght. poop-butt abuser in the grand scheme of things.


God Bless

.
Tara
2005-04-16 17:50:33 UTC
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Post by dougwa
Ray,
Read my posts. I ve been insulted , abused, and attacked by experts who
were paid to do it I didnt know how to deal with them then, I do know.
Your just a lightweght. poop-butt abuser in the grand scheme of things.
God Bless
.
poop-butt?

POOP-BUTT?!?!?!

Holy crap.

Tara
Mark Warner
2005-04-16 18:31:35 UTC
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Post by Tara
Post by dougwa
Ray,
Read my posts. I ve been insulted , abused, and attacked by experts
who were paid to do it I didnt know how to deal with them then, I
do know.
Your just a lightweght. poop-butt abuser in the grand scheme of things.
God Bless
poop-butt?
POOP-BUTT?!?!?!
Holy crap.
Can this group sink any lower?
--
Mark Warner
lose .inhibitions when replying
Tara
2005-04-16 19:09:59 UTC
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Post by Mark Warner
Post by Tara
Post by dougwa
Ray,
Read my posts. I ve been insulted , abused, and attacked by experts
who were paid to do it I didnt know how to deal with them then, I
do know.
Your just a lightweght. poop-butt abuser in the grand scheme of things.
God Bless
poop-butt?
POOP-BUTT?!?!?!
Holy crap.
Can this group sink any lower?
One can only hope.

Tara
Mark Warner
2005-04-16 19:21:19 UTC
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Post by Tara
Post by Mark Warner
Post by Tara
Post by dougwa
Ray,
Read my posts. I ve been insulted , abused, and attacked by experts
who were paid to do it I didnt know how to deal with them then, I
do know.
Your just a lightweght. poop-butt abuser in the grand scheme of things.
God Bless
poop-butt?
POOP-BUTT?!?!?!
Holy crap.
Can this group sink any lower?
One can only hope.
Ah, yes. The good ol' days.
--
Mark Warner
lose .inhibitions when replying
SHARX.
2005-04-17 06:13:57 UTC
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Mark Warner wrote:
|| Tara wrote:
||| dougwa wrote:
||||
|||| Ray,
||||
|||| Read my posts. I ve been insulted , abused, and attacked by experts
|||| who were paid to do it I didnt know how to deal with them then, I
|||| do know.
||||
|||| Your just a lightweght. poop-butt abuser in the grand scheme of
|||| things.
||||
|||| God Bless
|||
||| poop-butt?
|||
||| POOP-BUTT?!?!?!
|||
||| Holy crap.
||
|| Can this group sink any lower?

Just watch it sink, sink, sink.

||
|| --
|| Mark Warner
|| lose .inhibitions when replying

F.H.
2005-04-16 18:39:09 UTC
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Post by Tara
Post by dougwa
Ray,
Read my posts. I ve been insulted , abused, and attacked by experts who
were paid to do it I didnt know how to deal with them then, I do know.
Your just a lightweght. poop-butt abuser in the grand scheme of things.
God Bless
.
poop-butt?
POOP-BUTT?!?!?!
Holy crap.
Tara
((((<<<<ACK!>>>>))))
Tara
2005-04-16 19:10:25 UTC
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Post by F.H.
Post by Tara
Post by dougwa
Ray,
Read my posts. I ve been insulted , abused, and attacked by experts who
were paid to do it I didnt know how to deal with them then, I do know.
Your just a lightweght. poop-butt abuser in the grand scheme of things.
God Bless
.
poop-butt?
POOP-BUTT?!?!?!
Holy crap.
Tara
((((<<<<ACK!>>>>))))
God I'm loving this! heh

Tara
nipntuk
2005-04-16 19:33:42 UTC
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Post by dougwa
Your just a lightweght. poop-butt abuser
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Ray Pearson
2005-04-16 23:52:55 UTC
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Post by dougwa
Ray,
Your just a lightweght. poop-butt abuser in the grand scheme of things.
Oh christ Now I'm just cut to the quick,,, guess I'll have to walk around
with a cut quick.

Really really lame
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